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This Week we have a very special guess, Annmarie, founder of Classic Movie Hub, we also talk Girls Weekend, Matching Sets (YES AGAIN) The Waterfront, Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders, And Just Like That, Animal Kingdom and SO MUCH MORE
This week on We Need to Talk, America's Sweetheart, back for season two, a new show on Netflix, Waterfront, and a very special guest. All right, morning. Is it morning? Look at my drink. Foggy like the fucking weather. I thought that. I thought we turned the corner yesterday. Yesterday I was like, it's finally here, everyone. Nope. It was a psych out. And here it is. So now there is tequila in my fresca, and it's foggy.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, what a nasty looking day. I just really can't. I went to girls' weekend. My college roommate had it at her lake house. She has this gorgeous house on a lake with a Where's the lake? Lake Wallen Pow Pack, which I never heard of. Somewhere in Pennsylvania, but beautiful. Oh, very nice, very nice. She has a beautiful home there, and she has a pool and boats, jet skis, and noodles, and floaties, and all this other stuff. And we were eight women. That's so nice. Nobody went in the pool and nobody went in the lake. Oh, because of the weather you said. Just because I don't know if it was nobody wanted to get their hair wet. It was too cold. It wasn't really summer weather. I don't know. But nobody went in at all. All we did was eat, take walks, and listen to music. But it was great. I loved getting to know all her friends and drink. Interesting. Some drinking. My vision of how the weekend was gonna go was that everybody's gonna be hammered. There was some what I would call light drinking.
SPEAKER_02So these are not all your college friends, or some of her friends also.
SPEAKER_04All her friends from different parts of her life. Oh, interesting. So she had a friend there that she knew since kindergarten. She had a friend there who she met on a family vacation when she was four. She's from Edgemont, Westchester. And so she had the Edgemont moms, and all these different women were very different. All of them. But the craziest thing was there were two therapists there. So the entire time I'm thinking they're totally overanalyzing us and thinking we're all insane. And of course, the fact that I don't really drive was a thing. So as I'm leaving, the two therapists are in the kitchen chatting, and I said, I'm sure you're gonna have a field day with me as I leave because my husband came to get me. They're part of the Edgemont moms. Oh no, no.
SPEAKER_02We were just here to assess the women.
SPEAKER_04Well, you know what? I kind of feel like maybe she brought in some reassessments outside, it's uh outside counseling.
SPEAKER_02I just read two articles about girls' trips. One was on the Wall Street Journal, and it was all about the Hamptons. It was more like a girl's outing for a weekend. You could drop thousands of dollars. Yes. More about money. The other one was about mental health. It's more important for women than it is for men. All these statistics have been done and are out there that exist that women need other women on girls' trips. Absolutely. Like once a year, twice a year, whatever it is. I thought it was fascinating, yes. That you just said that because this literally this week I read two different articles.
SPEAKER_04I thought it was fascinating. I love my college roommate, she is one of my favorite people. And I know one of her friends from college, sort of, but to see who she decided to become friends with was fascinating. And you know, when you get to be our age, you're very accepting. So she called me to say, What did you think? And I said, You know what? I loved meeting everybody. I love all crazy, I love all sane, I love everything. But you like that though. I love it, I love it. I know, but I have to say, having therapists around. Did she slip you her card? Like maybe you want to give me a call, a therapist. Well, I said I have my own therapist, so I don't need you, but I did have a couple questions. And then I kept saying, Would you mind if I asked you a couple questions, even though you're sort of off the clock? And one of them was cool with it, the other not so much. That's fucking funny. But I will say, my cutester little roommate, she got us all little gift bags. That's nice. So they're like a Trader Joe's canvas bag. She's a house that doesn't let you wear shoes. So she gave us all little socks when we got there. Very nice in the bag. We had earplugs, we had eye masks, we had makeup remover and emory boards and chocolate snacks. Perfect.
SPEAKER_02She definitely got the Emily Post. I mean, I know you're great with the game. She got the Emily Post etiquette. I love that job. Because let me tell you, also very important. Emily Post does not have this in her book, but if she had done follow-up, I'm sure her daughter probably does. But if you are a no shoes household, I'm a no shoes.
SPEAKER_04I'm no shoes.
SPEAKER_02Yes, I know. But one of the things that you should do, which is exactly what your college roommate did, when you're having a large number of people over and you're a no shoes household, you provide either those little almost like hospital slippers or little booties. Yeah, the covers. I've gone to plenty of dinner parties at no shoe households where they have it in the basket. The basket next to it, which is important. Right.
SPEAKER_04And the fact that we got to keep the socks, these socks are great. I love them. Yeah, I just love it. Who doesn't love a gift bag? You guys are really good with the gift bags too.
SPEAKER_02Well, you and my late grandmother Sabina are the only people I know. They get chauffeur back and forth.
SPEAKER_04And this was two hours away.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god.
SPEAKER_04And they couldn't believe it. They kept saying, Your husband's gonna drive all the way here to get you. I go, Yeah, he is. And he did. And the thing is, they kept asking me, Do you not have a license? Do you not know how to drive? I said, No, no, I'm a driver. I drove 60 miles each way to work for 10 years. Like, I know how to drive. Yes, they don't want me to drive. So, bottom line is if you don't want me to drive, come pick me up, come take me. Hence the fact that we have a driver also, Buggy. We have a driver, not just your husband. Right. I have Ralph, the driver, and then I have my husband and well, I'll lose. I'm losing my son as my one of my drivers, but I keep saying, maybe I could get a car again because I don't have my own car.
SPEAKER_02If I never had to drive again, I'd be happy. Yeah, I say it all the time. We have had this conversation. If we were to hit ladder tomorrow, I would have a driver as a stylist. I don't want to do my hair. I don't want to drive ever again.
SPEAKER_04Agree. I love not driving, but I don't like the judgment of people who think right now. Like they're like, oh, is he controlling? Is everything okay at home? Oh, yeah, they fucking talked about you the whole way home.
SPEAKER_02I'm sure. They talked about you the fucking whole way home.
SPEAKER_04Except there was one other woman there who was crazier than me. So I felt confident that So you hung out with her. Listen, I hung out with everybody because I love everybody's stories, but there was one woman crazier than me. So I think that when the two therapists were, you know, texting each other on the side, they were probably thinking this other one, cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs, in the best possible way, because I loved her. But I think I was of the eight girls, I was probably number two of crazy. This is great. I love it. So good.
SPEAKER_02But it was fun. I had a really, really good time. I'm very glad. I'm very glad. Did you see fucking freaky? We were just talking about this. Is the hot air balloon accident in Brazil? It was so weird that we were just talking about it. Because we are right, you don't get these fucking things. Eight people died, it went up in flames. What do you need to know, people?
SPEAKER_04What now I'm never doing it.
SPEAKER_02Ever.
SPEAKER_04I told you. You're right. You're right. Look, it's very rare that we're wrong about something.
SPEAKER_02I'm also very sad this week about that Amberell death.
SPEAKER_04And not knowing, was there any information that I still nothing? Supposedly there was pills involved, but they don't think it was suicide. They think it could have been an accident.
SPEAKER_02Very sad. All the social media posts are sad, and she was a huge Ranger fan. Always on the big screen, the Rangers. Oh, I didn't even know that. The Rangers put out a post. It was very sad. Just got married.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, later in life marriage, which I always love. Me too. It's really oh and Burrell. And now I'm thinking, are she and Anthony Bourdain hanging out, cooking together, partying? Definitely. I think so. Definitely.
SPEAKER_02I think so too. I like to do that. I'm gonna raise my foggy tequila. Yeah, crazy. Cool, cool. All right, so we have a jam-packed show, and we have a guest.
SPEAKER_04So we need to prioritize. The only other chit chat that I wanted to have was this matching set thing is still continuous. People are still into the matching set thing.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god. It's ridiculous.
SPEAKER_04Well, my friend Amy, who's a very stylish person, but she texted me a picture from 30 years ago. Her, I think, ex-husband purchased a La Perla gorgeous set for her. It's still in the box, it still has the labels on it, and she's never worn it. That's hilarious. I said you should put it on the LaPurla Facebook page. But people are talking all about these matching sets with me all the time.
SPEAKER_02I'm gonna say something I learned, but I'm not gonna reveal the person because that's just a privacy issue. But it's one of our listeners talking about the matching sets, and she says to me that although she doesn't wear matching sets, her undergarments or underwear matches the color of her outfit. So, for example, if she is wearing a navy dress or navy pants, she is wearing navy underwear. So she has every color of the clothes she has. The reason why I find this so also why does it matter? Amazing is because obviously with white, you have to wear white or nude or whatever because of see-through.
SPEAKER_05Right.
SPEAKER_02Even in pattern, if I was wearing a fuchsia, I'm definitely wearing in the pink family underwear. But my point is this. So that means she's very like so.
SPEAKER_04When she wakes up and she's putting her shit together to wear, yeah, to do her job or to go out for for dinner, she's also thinking about does my underwear match what I'm gonna wear.
SPEAKER_02But this is my point. People take the whole thing as part of self-care. You know what I mean? Yes, I guess whether it's the matching set or not, part of her routine in getting dressed is to make sure her undergarments match her color.
SPEAKER_04If she buys a new outfit, does she buy an a pair of corresponding underwear to make sure that that matches?
SPEAKER_02I think she has one of those crayon, you know, like in the crayon family, all the colors are a descendant of the other color. That's what I think. Blue is not really blue, or purple's not really purple, you know what I mean? Right. They're like they come from somewhere. That has to be it. Who knew that this topic was gonna have such distraction? It's actually crazy. I even have our male listeners saying, is this really a thing? I don't know. Yes, yes, it is. It's a thing.
SPEAKER_04Oh, right, because men don't do that. Oh if there's a guy out there who matches his Tommy Johns to his shorts, I need to know.
SPEAKER_02The verdict for the Karen Reed trial came out this week and she was found not guilty.
SPEAKER_04Most of my friends and some of the listeners that texted me, I think we all thought she was innocent, but we all feel that there's something shady.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah, definitely shady, definitely drinking and driving situation, some type of cover-up, I think. I don't think anything was done on purpose. Nothing happened, and then there became like a cover-up situation. Right. I just hope that the truth really does then eventually come out, but who knows?
SPEAKER_03It's never gonna come out. So be honest.
SPEAKER_02So we do have a guest, like I said, so we gotta get right into it. We need to start with America's Sweethearts because last year, if you remember, I put America's Sweethearts in my top five. Yes.
SPEAKER_04For anybody who doesn't know what it is, it's the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders tryouts, and then you start to see what happens once they get on the team and throughout the season, what happens. And it's pretty intense, and we love these girls, and we love the two women that run the program are Kelly Finglass and Judy. And they've been doing this.
SPEAKER_02We said that 40 years for 40 years. This is their job, it's their career, but it also was a TLC show, right? Remember? Right. But I never watched the TLC show. I did, and it's a long time ago in a million seasons, but I watched it, but nothing like this. Nothing like what Netflix did. This is the second season that just dropped. It is just unbelievable.
SPEAKER_04It's unbelievable. And what you have to remember, people, is this is not their full-time job. So they all have other things going on. Some women that are going to school, to college, there are some who work a full day and then go to practice and go to the games. One thing that transpired this season is they were getting paid $500 a game. And then if they get brand deals or if they get appearances, they get paid in addition to that. But $500 a game for the amount of work they put in is ridiculously low to me. And so some of the women got together to challenge this for the first time ever to seek a pay raise. Yes. So that was fascinating that that transpired. And I wonder if they met together to say, hey, we're gonna be on TV. Everybody's watching. We were the number one show last year. Let's use it to our advantage and get more money.
SPEAKER_02It's exactly what happened. Of course. I never do this, but I did this for the show. I went down a Reddit.
SPEAKER_04Oh, you did the Reddit thing?
SPEAKER_02I did because first I was obsessed with this Shandy thing. Yeah. Then I was obsessed with the pay raise. We'll get to the shandy thing in a minute, but I went down a Reddit rabbit hole. It's 50-50 out there as far as oh, using this platform, using Netflix. You gotta use what you got. I don't know if I agree with that. You gotta use what you got as right. In 2022 season, they made about $400, $500 a game. So now, as a result of the show and what these girls did, they got approximately a 400% uh raise, and they're making about $1,200 a game now. Right. So one could argue that you can maybe sustain uh along with doing different ad deals and stuff, a living now off of just this. But previously, you can't afford to pay rent and to continue to do all the things you do with just being a DCC. And so good for them.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I think that they deserve it. The thing is, there's 36 girls, so not all 36 are getting brand deals and appearances. Maybe the top 10, top 12 get these extra deals. So the person who's number 36 is getting how many home games? 1,200 times 10 home games, so $12,000.
SPEAKER_02And it's not you know, that's not cash, that's on the books. And the other thing is there's a max of how long you do it. So they only get to do this for five years. So really they need to have plan B but on Reddit, they were like, no one becomes a Dallas Cowboy cheerleader for the money and so and so and so. And I understand that part, right? You basically know. I mean, that rule book has been the same since the 70s. So we get it. Listen, everyone's getting paid nowadays. Why shouldn't they get paid? Give me a fucking I was all for them getting a raise. Me too. So good for them. Right now, it's all over social media that they got about a 400% pay increase. So muzzle tough.
SPEAKER_04But I want to make sure people understand that just because it's a 400%, well, most of them all still need a second job, no matter what, because it's a short season, but you got to train and you got all this PT, and it's just so much to it.
SPEAKER_02So much to it. It's so crazy. What I thought was interesting in this season. So last season, for those listeners who watched it, there was a fan favorite Victoria. Right. She was going into her fifth and final year, but did not return. Right. One of the reasons about the not return was body weight. So crazy when you think about it. But they did show her and she moved to New York and she was trying out to be she got a really nice apartment. She's trying out to be a rockette. She did not make it onto the rockettes.
SPEAKER_04Right. We saw it.
SPEAKER_02So now she's trying for another time. But good for her.
SPEAKER_04She's following her dreams, doing what she needs to do. So the side thing that happened this year was crazy. Shandy. So they picked these leaders of each group. Um and the main leader this year, there were two, Jada and Shandy. And Shandy had some issues. And towards the end of the show, they all go to the Bahamas for this retreat. She had a boyfriend, Shandy, and apparently she was having some sort of mental breakdown and met a guy, brought him back to her room, which is not allowed.
SPEAKER_02So again, all these rules, right? You never see anybody with alcohol, no outside people. I don't know if she was having some relationship issues in general. She was a victim of domestic violence in her previous relationship, which was terrible. And so was her mother. But they did show her with her boyfriend this whole season. Yeah, and we thought he was a good guy. Right. So goes to the Bahamas, meets a guy, brings him back to the room. I don't really know what transpired from there, but then the girls were freaking out because that's not allowed. And she broke the rules. Broke code and you know, safety issues. So I'm 10 minutes into eight, but I've I've been down this Reddit thing, so I basically know. So she comes back, and because of all this and people like reporting her and all this stuff, she then goes to HR and says that she was having mental health issues. And so Reddit people are, it's actually a shame that now she's using her mental health as an excuse because they can't fire her when she goes to HR and says she's mental health. So it becomes this whole fucking case. But she ended up leaving anyway. But they also claim that she was the one who went to HR to say that they were on a Zoom call and reported them. Yeah, they say she was the rat that reported them about the pay increase meeting and the possible walkout of practice.
SPEAKER_04I didn't know that.
SPEAKER_02So they kept saying she was a lot of bit of a shit stirrer here. I don't know what's true or not. None of it excuses the fact that she was abused in a previous relationship. Right. But there's more that meets the eye.
SPEAKER_04And then the only other thing I wanted to say about it was last year there was this girl from Weehawk in New Jersey, Kelly, right? That was her name, Kelly V. Kelly. And she didn't make it. And she stayed in Texas and she trained all year and she auditions, and spoiler alert, she makes it. So for me, I was so happy that my New Jersey girl made it. It was so exciting.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. It's the best.
SPEAKER_04It's the it is the best show. I love it so much. I just want to sit there all day. Yeah. And so and I hate to say it, but it does make me want to watch their games to see my girls. I know. Right? Because I hate the cowboys. Fuck the cowboys.
SPEAKER_02Fuck them, but we love their children. But we love them so much. Yes. So please, if you did not watch, I know we just gave a a lot away, but it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. If you did not watch season one, you gotta watch season one. And season two just dropped on Netflix. It's amazing.
SPEAKER_04I mean, this Kelly and Judy. I gotta DM them. I want them on our show. They are so good. I love them. I love them so much. They are unbelievable. You know what I love? I love when they have to make a decision and they just stare at each other.
unknownI love it.
SPEAKER_04When they just look at each other, but they know what each other's thinking. They've been working together so long, they can read each other's minds and they just stare at each other. I love it. They're so good. And I love that they don't care what they look like, even though they care what they look like. You know what I mean? Like there's days that Kelly's in curlers and she's no, they care what they look like, but yeah, you're right. But like they care, but you also see when they are in the process of looking that way.
SPEAKER_02They probably have matching sets.
SPEAKER_04Oh, definitely. If we have people from Texas, I would think if the world of matching sets was ranked, I would think Dallas is like top of match. Matching sets. Okay, right? Yeah, totally.
SPEAKER_02All right, so a new show dropped also this week, but brand new on Netflix, and that is called The Waterfront. And coincidentally, the boy from Animal Kingdom, which I recommended everybody watch, six seasons now on Netflix, is in Waterfront.
SPEAKER_04Yes. Okay, so I took your advice and I started Animal Kingdom, even though I hate Ellen Barkin, and the show gives me tremendous anxiety, but I am in deep. I love it. Right. I love it. Of course you do. But I'm anxious every moment that I watch it.
SPEAKER_02Well, I was anxious every moment that I watched Sons of Anarchy.
SPEAKER_04Well, it reminds me of Sons of Anarchy. Everything goes wrong.
SPEAKER_02I guess.
SPEAKER_04And that one really bad brother, that guy Pope, he freaks me out.
SPEAKER_02I'm so scared of I watch all six seasons, but I almost feel like I need to rewatch it.
SPEAKER_04But the guy who's in Waterfront was like a scary but secretly gay guy. Yeah. And he had long hair and he was scary. And this guy has short hair, clean cut, the good guy.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Yes. This is the creator of Dawson's Creek and Vampire Diary.
SPEAKER_04Kevin Williamson.
SPEAKER_02It is a soapy family drawer. Of course.
SPEAKER_04A town name with one restaurant.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah. They've compared it to Ozark. No way. They've also compared it to Bloodline. No. No way. So I don't know. I don't think it's as good as either of those shows. It's like the Outer Banks. But it's but it sucks you in. I'm in. Maria Bello, love. Love Maria Bello. Love Maria Bello. And I will say, I think I'm on episode.
SPEAKER_04Melissa Benoist is the mom. I think I'm on episode four. Okay, I'm on episode two.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I think I just finished four. And I will see this things fucking happen. A lot happened in episode one. Yes. Things fucking happen. I'm on episode four. Things are happening. Okay. So listen, is it Ozark? No. Is it bloodline? No. No. Is it number one of the top ten in Netflix right now? Yes. So you got to get in there every time.
SPEAKER_04And of course, it has everything it's supposed to have. One restaurant. Of course it does. That name of the town is Haven. Family drama. All the family drama. Right. It's the big family of the town. Rich people problems. Rich people problems.
SPEAKER_02Although they're not really rich.
SPEAKER_04Well, not secretly rich, not really rich, losing everything. I mean, it's great. Did you ever watch that survivors? I never started it. Because there's only one survivor for me.
SPEAKER_02I did enjoy it. That was that Australian kind of murder mystery. But the reason why I'm bringing it up is it relates to waterfront. First of all, people are fucked up, right? And so that's why you can't live in a small town. Because the ratio is higher of the fucked up people, right? Of course. So now everybody around you is kind of fucked up. You have no shot of, you know, I don't know, larger groups of people. So when you move to these like towns, like these waterfront people and the fucking survivor people, it's too fucked up. There's crazies everywhere. And if everybody's eating at the same restaurant, all the shit goes together, you gotta go to bigger cities.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, you need more restaurants. You need you need more people.
SPEAKER_02More people, more restaurants. Because the people are too fucked up. But yo, I enjoyed that survivors for anybody who uh wants to check that out. I know Chrissy didn't watch it, but it was good. And now we're in the waterfront, so we'll see. I have a feeling that it remains in the top 10 for a while.
SPEAKER_04I do too.
SPEAKER_02Because it's like kind of a sleeper. It's good. You know what I mean? Like people are gonna start to climb on board as it becomes bigger and bigger. But Maria Bello. She looks good. Looks amazing, and I was so happy to see her. She's always somebody I get happy to see when she appears in a show.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So that's good. And the other thing that we had this week, which welcome back, everyone, were the Buccaneers on Apple TV Plus.
SPEAKER_04I forgot how much I love it.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god, I had total wet brain from last season. I watched the recap twice because I was trying to remember all the things. And what a nice surprise to see Late Measter in the Buddha.
SPEAKER_04I feel like she came out of the woodwork because now she's gonna be in the second season of Nobody Wants This with her husband Adam Brody. And now she I didn't know she was gonna be in the Buccaneers, did you? No, I had to do a double tape. We only got one episode. I don't want to say what happens at the end of the first episode, but I hope she continues to be in the show.
SPEAKER_02It's just so funny to me because what year is this show supposed to be?
SPEAKER_04I don't know. 1800, 1700. I don't know my year, 1600. I have no idea. I forget what year the show is supposed to be. I don't know.
SPEAKER_02But they talk to each other like I'm talking to you right now.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, they're our language.
SPEAKER_02They're like, oh yeah, you bug it. Right. It's so funny. They don't do that. But you know what I mean? No, they speak music. Like we speak blasting, they speaking, Sabrina Carpenter's playing. I'm like, this is great.
SPEAKER_04I love it. I love Nick. It's actually fucking great. I love her friends. I like the mom. I like everything about it. Every single thing.
SPEAKER_02The Buccaneers is back. It took a while. I totally had wet brain. But if you didn't watch season one of The Buccaneers, it's out on Apple TV Plus. Season two just dropped. I was shocked too that they only dropped one episode. Usually it's Apple give us two or three, but that's fine because I had to catch up on other things.
SPEAKER_04Okay, I know that we have to wrap this up pretty quick because of our guests, but I wanted to quickly say a couple things. Below deck, right now, the charter has eight gay pornost. I didn't watch this episode. Okay. It was so uncomfortable to watch. The fact that Captain Carrie is okay with is just crazy. But you gotta see this episode. And we get another one. But oh my gosh, eight gay porn stars. And then the other thing is if Angest Like That couldn't get worse, you think how bad, how bad could a show get? Well, it got as bad as it could get. If it goes even further at how bad it could be, I'll be amazed at how bad someone can make a show. It's just I don't even know what to say. Carrie's in friggin' West Virginia, she's in these friggin' crazy shoes, and she's on a freaking ATV, and there's family drama with Aiden's fan. Like, we don't care. Get back to the city. Come on. What? That young son. Terrible.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god. That's acting. What is that?
SPEAKER_04Terrible, but all of it terrible.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, awful, awful week, but I just have to left.
SPEAKER_04And also Charlotte's situation, ridiculous. I left. The husband, the kids, all bad. But I will say, and that was the topic I did want to bring up. I am, I am into the sleep divorce. I'm into it. Well, you do that. I don't I know a lot of people that do that. I don't officially have a divorce. You called it sleep divorce, though. I don't officially have a sleep divorce because to me, a sleep divorce means at the end of the night, you go to your room and I go to my room. I start out with good intention. I start out to be okay, snuggly snugglers, let's get in bed and watch TV and play TV.
SPEAKER_02Every night you start out in the same room.
SPEAKER_04Yes. Oh no, because I know plenty of people that don't. They don't bother. Right. These people, in and just like that, he decides he wants a sleep divorce, so he says goodnight to her and goes to the guest room. I don't do that. I don't start out in the family room. I start out in my room. Got it. And then I decide. So that's maybe a sleep separation. So you're in a sleep separation. Yeah. You haven't officially filed yet. You're in a sleep separation. Right. But I will say, in the family room, I have the couch ready for me. My pillow is there, my blankets are set up. So that if I decide to go that route, there's no prep. It's ready for me. Every night. Every night. So I like that now I'm seeing a little bit of myself in a show. You know when he said sleep divorce? That's the first time I heard that. Oh no, it's a whole thing.
SPEAKER_02If you go down Reddit, there's tons of it about that. Try not to go down Reddit.
SPEAKER_04I mean, I've never even been on Reddit, so I don't know.
SPEAKER_02I can't even I'm scared.
SPEAKER_04I feel like it's like the underground or something.
SPEAKER_02So crazy. And you stop TikToking.
SPEAKER_04Yes, but I will say one of the things that I learned during the girls' weekend, and I put it on my phone, there is an app called ScreenZen, Z-E-N, and you put it on your phone. I'm gonna actually put TikTok back. It monitors your social media, you tell it how much time per week you would allow yourself to be on it. So I gave myself three hours a week, and then what happens is so let's say I want to go onto Instagram. Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_02It'll say to me so ridiculous. No, no, no.
SPEAKER_04It'll say to me, why do you want to go on it? And you get 30 seconds before you go on to say, Why do I want to go on it? And then I go on it, and then if I go on it for the whole three hours, that's my allotment. You could say I want 10 hours a week, you could do whatever, but it will limit my screen time. So I think I'm gonna do it just for TikTok. So I could put TikTok back on my phone and give myself three hours of TikTok a week. And then have a chance. If that was your issue, you were spending too much time. Too much time. I would say, Oh, I'm just gonna go on for 15 minutes. And the next thing I know, it's three o'clock in the morning and four hours later. I'm on the family room. By myself, somebody created an app for you. I don't know what you would have done. Then, people. Oh god. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02All right. Anything else? I don't think so. I mean, we were I watched Sullivan's Crossing, but you didn't miss anything. So we'll watch it after this. Yeah. And we have a special guest today. So let's get to it. Let's get producer Ed on.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Three, two.
SPEAKER_02Here we go. We have a very special guest, Anne Marie and producer Ed is on, going to give us his intro. Finally, he's doing some producing, everyone.
SPEAKER_01Lots of producing this week. To be clear, I'm not the special guest.
SPEAKER_02Oh, you're not. No.
SPEAKER_01Let me introduce my friend Anne-Marie. So Anne Marie is the president and founder of Classic Movie Hub. Classic Movie Hub is the social media source for the celebration of classic movies and entertainment. Now I've gotten to know Anne Marie over the past five years. Her background is in marketing for large music, media, and entertainment companies. And she already has a side hustle because she's a musician.
SPEAKER_04Well, you didn't tell us she was a musician. Oh, God.
SPEAKER_01We got that going too. And she's a woman with very, very little spare time. And yet in 2009, she said, you know what? I'm going to create the classic movie hub. I was shocked when I found this out after four and a half years of knowing her. And I've been trying to get her on the podcast ever since. So finally we got her today because what started as a hobby for Anne-Marie now has about 1.5 million followers.
SPEAKER_04You got to tell us how to do that, Anne Marie, because we're struggling to get to our first million.
SPEAKER_00Welcome, Anne-Marie. I'm so happy to be here. I was so nervous. But now I'm excited. Feel like you guys are such good friends that I feel like I'm going to be talking to my friends. Yes. That's the idea.
SPEAKER_04That's the idea.
SPEAKER_02Cheers to you. Tell us a little bit more about Classic Movie Hub.
SPEAKER_04How did this all come to fruition? Have you always been a fan of the classics?
SPEAKER_00Yes. Well, you know what? I grew up with the classics. When I was a little girl, I mean, I was probably five, six, seven years old. My dad introduced me to the Marx Brothers and Wows and Charlie Chaplin. When I was a little girl, I was probably about six years old. My dad dressed me up like Charlie Chaplin. I had his big hat, and it came with then we made a fake mustache and I walked up and down the driveway while he filmed me. So I grew up with the classics. And then with my mom, she wasn't that comedy type person, she liked the romances. So I remember being in grammar school and we'd watched Wuthering Heights. Catherine, Catherine, great. Oh, she loved it happened one night. So I grew up with classic movies, and I've just always loved them. I've always gravitated toward them. And what happened was during my day job, a couple years, probably about 2008, 2009, I'm like, you know what? I want to learn how to build a website. So I enrolled in some pretty intense classes in my spare time and learned how to code. Oh, wow. Yeah, the website was built from scratch. I'm not a great coder. I had to hire a tutor for many years because you can't just learn coding after taking continuing ed classes. So what happened was the final exam for my college continuing ed program was to build a website. So I'm like, all right. And it was a one-page website for my final exam. And now it's a lot of pages.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it's great. We checked it out. I'm a big list person, so I loved the list of the movies from each decade. And to be very, very transparent, there's a ton of them that I've never seen. So I already started my own list of I have a lot to catch up on list.
SPEAKER_02Are you doing this alone, Emery? While you're doing your full-time job, how do you even find the time for all this?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, because you also answer everybody. Yeah, I stay very lit, and I and I spend my weekends doing a lot of this. Okay. The one thing great about this website was when I started, and I started my Twitter X, whatever you want to call it now, my Twitter at the time and Facebook. I started with nothing. But because there's such a tight-knit classic movie community, I met some amazing people through Twitter, like experts in film noir, experts in sci-fi, but they're great people. And I've actually become very close friends with a number of them. We had never met, you know, just met through Twitter and then we'd meet up at a festival, you know, and oh, I'm Anne Marie. And it was great. So many of those people write as part of Classic Movie Hub. So I have a lot of really special, well-known people in the classic movie community contributing to my website, which is really exciting because to be honest, I'm a scaredy cat, so I don't like anymore. I don't really watch horror unless it's Frankenstein or something. Right. So, you know, I'm more of the romantic comedy, screwball comedy, drama. So it's great to have this really tight-knit group of people that just love classic movies. And I have someone who writes only about Westerns. And what happens is I start looking at them like, oh, let me check out a film Noir. Well, let me check out a Western, but I'm learning and I'm growing, and that's like the best part.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I really felt very old, Emery, when I was on your website, you said that Jaws was a classic movie. I'm like, now I'm fucking old. Because if Jaws became a classic movie, forget it's gonna be 50 years old. I did the same thing. Wow, I'm old.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. I mean, Jaws was 50 years ago. It's crazy.
SPEAKER_02I know you listen to our podcast and we appreciate that, but do you find any time to watch any of the movies or shows that are current? Streaming is the best, right?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Because you could watch anything you want on your own. I'm a cord cutter. I do get sucked into a lot of the more current programs, but I tend to watch them when they're done. Like I just finished watching Goliath and I watch Outlander, but I've watched Squid Game, the first one. Yeah, right, right, right. I'm Waiting for Stranger Things, although that scared the bejeevas of me.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, that was too scary for me.
SPEAKER_00I like to pick and choose. I like a lot of historical things. So I'll watch things like Versailles or The Tudors or I love music. So last week I just streamed Becoming Led Zeppelin.
SPEAKER_05So good.
SPEAKER_00Oh my gosh, what a great movie. And I just watched, again, this is older, but the Dylan Scorsese documentary I watched last week. And I just watched the uh Rolling Thunder review last night.
SPEAKER_02We asked some of our listeners about what their favorite classics is in preparation for this. So I'm cracking up because I was depressed when I saw Jaws on your website, but we got some good ones, but then some interesting ones that we wanted to run by you. So rear window, which definitely classic.
SPEAKER_04Once upon a time in America, like we're getting the 80s. I mean, that could be called a classic, but that's not in your world a classic.
SPEAKER_00Well, here's the thing. So there's two ways to look at classics, right? There is really a defined classic Hollywood era. Okay. That goes from the beginnings through the early to mid-60s. That's a defined uh film era, if you want. In the mid-60s, it's the new Hollywood era that started. So for me, I like to talk about the classic Hollywood era. Some people also called it the Golden Age. Yeah. Right. But typically, and what happens in the 60s is you have some films that lean more toward the golden age, classic Hollywood, some films that lean more toward the American New Wave, which is the new Hollywood era. They generally say the pivot point was Bonnie and Clyde in 1967. But there's things that flow back and forth. But that's the classic era of Hollywood defined. But the word classic nowadays is, I think, used more to define things that are just like stand the test of time. Right. Right. So I get it. It's just funny because I was really struggling with posting about Jaws the other day because I'm like, well, that's not a classic era Hollywood all the day. But you know what? It's a classic. So that's why I kind of said, okay, I'm testing the waters. Oh, forgive the pun. I'm testing. Because I do know that people love some very amazing newer air quotes movies as well.
SPEAKER_02Right. For me, I always think like it's Breakfast at Tiffany's or it's Casablanca. Those are mine. Yes. And but when we put it out there for our listeners, they say like Princess Bride, Godfather Part Two, Grave Art, 1995. How could Casablanca be with Grave Art?
SPEAKER_00But again, The Princess Bride, adore that movie. And The Godfather, these are classics. They may not be from the classic era of Hollywood, the defined classic era of Hollywood.
SPEAKER_04Well, then there's a broad sense of what classic is. So our listeners aren't that off base then.
SPEAKER_00It's what's classic to them. So again, as long as you don't say it's my favorite classic Hollywood era movie, because if it's their favorite classic, look, I mean, there are, let's face it, there are amazing films and amazing directors and amazing performances after 1967, right? And they will be considered classics for years to come. They just weren't from the classic Hollywood era.
SPEAKER_01And and Marie, do you have a favorite? Do you have a favorite or two from the classic era that you point to?
SPEAKER_00I'm not an expert. I just want to clear this up. I am not an expert in classic movies. I'm just a huge fan.
SPEAKER_05Right.
SPEAKER_00So for me, I gravitate toward comedy. So I love people to be like, but that's so sexist. But you have to look at them at the time they were put out. But I love Pillow Talk. I think that's good movie. Um, I love my favorite wife, Charlie Chaplin, The Gold Rush. City Lights. My God, one minute you're laughing, the next minute you're bawling like a baby. I saw that at uh Lincoln Center, and I brought some people with me who had never seen a Charlie Chaplin movie, and it was with the Philharmonic, and they were shocked. They were laughing and then they were crying in the same movie. And they were like, oh my god, I never knew Charlie Chaplin was so great. I love Wuthering Heights. I love You Can't Take It With You. There's just so many, the more the merrier. I tend to go towards screwball comedies, but then I greatly respect, like I'm not a big fan of war movies, and I I had to write something about Bridge on the on the River Kwai. And I'm like, oh boy, all right. I guess I gotta watch Bridge on the River Qui. It was one of the most amazing movies I've ever seen.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So there's just so such a treasure trove. But like when I'm stressed from a long, hard day at work, I'll throw on a screwball comedy.
SPEAKER_02This is a labor of love, basically, right? This is your passion. And now to have your passion have 1.5 million people following you is amazing.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, you must be doing something right because this is our passion and we don't have that.
SPEAKER_00I think I started my Twitter probably in 2009, 2010, or 2011, somewhere early. I've been doing this for a long time. Yeah. You know, yeah, but it's great because I'm finding people that actually like this stuff.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Well, you know, there's what we've been finding is there's a niche of everything, right? You know, you say one thing and you have a whole bunch of people who are fans of that tiny item, and there's a whole community behind it. So you found yours, which is amazing.
SPEAKER_00So just curious though. So I know Casablanca, this and that. Any other favorite classic movies on your end?
SPEAKER_04I'm a gone with the win person. I've always been a huge breakfast at Tiffany's person. So there's that one. But gotta admit, your list has given me a huge homework assignment because I've never seen a Charlie Chaplin movie ever.
SPEAKER_00Oh my god, watch City Lights.
SPEAKER_04I'm going to.
SPEAKER_00It's phenomenal. And then watch The Gold Rush.
SPEAKER_04Okay. I definitely will.
SPEAKER_02I think we took a class on this in college, producerette. But let me tell you something, Jaws was not a classic movie when we were in college. I have seen Charlie Chaplin movies. Like Chrissy said, there's so much to watch. It's unbelievable. I enjoy it. I like that stuff. With this and everything that Christy and I do, it's hard to fill in some of those. But now that the summer's coming, that's what we'll do. Kudos to you for doing this every week.
SPEAKER_04I think it's a lot of work. A lot of work. I know.
SPEAKER_01I have a qu I have a question for Anne Marie before I steer us towards trivia. Okay. Anne-Marie, I feel like with this interaction that you should be thinking about doing your own podcast. Any thoughts about doing a podcast?
SPEAKER_00I think about it all the time.
SPEAKER_01You'd be great.
SPEAKER_00We'll be happy to teach you.
SPEAKER_01Anne-Marie took the pressure off of Christy and Kay this week, and she's gonna be running our trivia game. Yeah, hope we get one right.
SPEAKER_04Oh my god, there's no way I get any. Are we answering individually, or are we as a team trying to come up with the answer?
SPEAKER_01Oh, individually.
SPEAKER_04Oh shit.
SPEAKER_00Okay, that's the rule. Okay. It's hard to put together a quiz. So hopefully a lot of these will be easy for you. So, okay, first question.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_00Who is the first actor to win four Academy Awards? I'll give you the choices. I was gonna say this better be multiple choice. Meryl Streep, Katherine Hepburn, Daniel Day Lewis, or Doug Nicholson.
SPEAKER_04Oh my gosh. Okay, I I have my answer.
SPEAKER_02I have my answer.
SPEAKER_04You have your answer? I have my answer.
SPEAKER_01All right, I'm going Catherine Hepburn. I'm going Catherine.
SPEAKER_04Me too. That's mine.
SPEAKER_00All right, yes. Yay! Katherine Hepburn won four best actress Oscars. Like none of them were supporting. No one comes close. So you've got here the rest of them won three, but Meryl Streep won two for best actress, one for supporting.
SPEAKER_04Supporting, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Okay. Jack Nicholson, two for best actor, one for supporting. Daniel Day Lewis, a little different, three for best actor. But Catherine Hepburn's the only one who got four. Now, I went ahead and just did a couple of other things here. The most Oscars won by a person was Walt Disney. He won't wow. Can you believe it? 22 competitive Oscars and four honorary. So he got 26 Oscars. And then the most competitive awards for best. Director was four with John Ford. Okay. Who did all those great websites?
SPEAKER_02Kathy Hepburn's amazing because her career, it was 30 plus years later, she won a guy on Golden Pond.
SPEAKER_00Yes. But at a certain point in her career, she was considered box office poison. Hollywood's very forgiving. Yeah. At the 30 plus years. Which of these actors comes from a legendary theatrical family dynasty? Kate Blanchette, Drew Barrymore, Audrey Hepburn, or Nicole Kidman?
SPEAKER_04Drew.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, Drew.
SPEAKER_00Okay. All right. These are too easy for you.
SPEAKER_01We're all two for two.
SPEAKER_00I'm never two for two, by the way. Just for the audience's sake. So Drew's father was John Drew Barrymore, who was an actor, but her grandfather was John Barrymore, right? He was legendary. Stage and screen. He was a matinee idol. He was big. So that meant her great uncle was Lionel Barrymore. Oh my gosh, right? Mr. Potter, It's a Wonderful Life and all that. And her great aunt was Ethel Barrymore, who was First Lady of America. And even beyond that, there was one generation beyond that that were actors.
SPEAKER_04Side note, Amory, I don't know where you live, but in Fort Lee, which was uh Oh, I love Fort Lee. Okay, so they uh they opened the Barrymore Center for film, and my mom lives in Fort. I have not been to the center yet, but she loves it and says, especially the things that they do with classic movies are phenomenal. So I don't know if you get have gotten there yet.
SPEAKER_00I have a friend on the board, and I know who's involved. And there's a great little museum in Fort Lee about the early history, because you know, well, maybe you don't. Fort Lee was really where a lot of the movie history was born.
SPEAKER_04Oh, yeah, I lived in Coitsville, so I grew up there, so I know teach us that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so but there's a great little museum there, and they have a lot of things from Theta Barra and all these great old actors. Okay, now which of these actresses never played Cleopatra on the screen? Okay, okay. Elizabeth Taylor, Claudette Colbert, Theta Barra, or Maria Montez?
SPEAKER_04I have no idea.
SPEAKER_02Well, we know it's Elizabeth Taylor.
SPEAKER_04I don't know who Maria Montez is, so I'm gonna go with the Theatre one.
SPEAKER_01I'm gonna go with Claudette.
SPEAKER_02I think Claudette played, and I I know Elizabeth played, and what was Montez. I'm doing that Montez one.
SPEAKER_03You're going Montez.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Okay, so what do we have? I've got one Maria, one Theatara Barra Claudette.
SPEAKER_01I'm Claudette.
SPEAKER_00The answer is Maria Montez. Oh, okay, you're gonna roll. Three for three. Oh, Elizabeth Taylor played Cleopatra in the that's how she started her affair with Burton. It was a big movie. Claudette Colbert played Cleopatra in 1934. That was directed by Cecil B. DeMille. Okay. And Theta Barra played Cleopatra in 1917. Yeah, we didn't know that. That's crazy. Yes, and 1917. 1917. Now that film is considered lost because they only have fragments of it and still photographs, but yeah, she was one of the original vamps. There's a bunch of Fort Lee stuff uh around Theatre. That's how I knew the name because of school. They brought it there. Now, here's another one. Which of these classic roles was not played by Boris Karloff? Okay. The Frankenstein monster, the mummy, Dracula, or the Grinch? Grinch. Grinch.
SPEAKER_01Wait, hold on a second. This has to be a trick question. Has to be. I should know this answer. I'm gonna say Frankenstein. I feel like this is a trick question. I'm on Frankenstein, Mont.
SPEAKER_04If he played the Grinch, he would have been dead for it.
SPEAKER_01I'm just I'm just saying tricky. You've locked, you've both locked in Grinch. Yeah, we locked in Frankenstein.
SPEAKER_04I mean, unless there's something we don't know. We locked in, we locked in. Okay.
SPEAKER_00Actually, it's Dracula. Oh Karloff was Frankenstein. Yes, that we know. That we know. Okay. Uh he did play the mummy. Now in the mummy, he plays a character's name. This I have to, it's I I can't pronounce it. Imhotep, right? But he does play the mummy in the beginning. He's the mummy. And the mummy reincarnated. Um, Dracula was Bella Lugosi, right? Uh he kind of made Dracula. He even played Dracula on Broadway before the film. The Grinch. Okay, so I'm guessing you're thinking of the movie The Grinch. I'm thinking of the animated cartoon Christmas. Oh Boris Carloff voiced the Grinch and he was the voice of the Grinch.
SPEAKER_04I had no idea.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And a good voice. That's very cool. Great voice. And Chuck Jones of Looney Tunes, fame, Bugs Bunny, and all that. And then Dr. Seuss, right? They cast Carloff because of his, I'm quoting, beautiful, rhythmic, caring voice, and poetic quality.
SPEAKER_03Nice.
SPEAKER_00So yeah. All right. So we're keeping track, right?
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Kate's still in the lead. She has K is in the leads.
SPEAKER_01And there's the last question.
SPEAKER_00Oh, okay. How many major film versions of a star is born has been released? Oh my God.
SPEAKER_04I'm going to go with three. I say I think three.
SPEAKER_01I'm waiting for the choice. I'm waiting for the choices.
SPEAKER_02Oh, I thought okay. Sorry. Sorry. Two, three, four, or five. I say three. Three, three, three. And I say four. Four.
SPEAKER_01Okay, if I was you, if I was you, I would have said three because then there's no way you could lose. I'm going to say three.
SPEAKER_04Well, four.
SPEAKER_00Oh.
SPEAKER_04No way. Who's in the fourth one?
SPEAKER_00Which ones do you which one? Right.
SPEAKER_04So there's the original original that I thought, which was before not Chris Christofferson and Barbara Streisand and not Bradley Cooper. Yes. But the one before that. Right. The one before that was. Oh my god, I can't remember the people's names. But I didn't know there was one before that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. So of course we know the Bradley Cooper Lady Gaga one. Yep. Of course we know Barbara. Yep. Yep. 1954, the one with Judy Garland and if you watch that, her performance of The Man That Got Away is a killer. Right. Watch nothing else, like fast forward to that. 1937, the one with Janet Gaynor and Frederick March. Did not even know about it either, but I took a look at it. Some people don't, and that's why I picked this question. Someone wanted to write for me, so they sent me an article to read talking about the three versions of a starsborn, and that's when I knew they could never write for me. Right.
SPEAKER_04There's your test. You're out. That's a good question because I didn't even know about that. And I love that movie so much.
SPEAKER_02Not only am I happy that I won, but this was amazing.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, you're great. You gotta come back. I could talk to you all day long. Yeah, you definitely have to come back.
SPEAKER_02We have so much to learn. Everybody, please check out Classic Movie Hub. It is amazing.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, we'll post it to our social media, even though you have way more followers than us.
SPEAKER_00If you want to send me the link to this, I'll be posting too. You guys are great. I have so much fun here. Thank you for being so thank you.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, this is awesome.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, please come back. Please come back.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, great. Thank you so much, Amory. Well, thank you. Have a great week. You too. Well, that was fun. And I won the game. Who knew? You knew. I know. Thank you. I knew. No, that was really fun. And I feel like it makes me want to watch some classic movies. Although it makes me want to, but the problem is when. I know the time which ones. I know. But we're gonna check out Classic Movie Hub because she does make lists, which we love a good list. I love lists.
SPEAKER_04Have to say her lists are good. One of the things I wanted to ask her to do because I like the site is she should have in the list where I can watch it. Because it's not just Turner Classic movies. I'm sure there's other places or like have a link to take me to where to watch it. And how awesome is that?
SPEAKER_02Like she took a coding class.
SPEAKER_04That made me feel such like a loser. I mean, you're taking stupid AI classes. Yeah, well, guess what? How many have I taken? One because it's so hard for me that I can't do it. Oh my god, we're losers. Losers. Look at what she does. Look what we do. She's a million followers. We have none.
SPEAKER_02We're talking about it just like that, and she's got a million point five followers.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Heads in the basement.
SPEAKER_04We gotta get out of the basement. Listen, listeners, we need your help. If Amory can have a million followers, we should have a million followers. She looks. She was all dressed. She had makeup on. She had beautiful scarf on. All right, everyone. She did her hair. I mean pajamas. We're drinking in the basement. Jesus Christ.
SPEAKER_05Have a good week, everyone.
SPEAKER_04I love ya.
SPEAKER_05Love ya.