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We are back, season seven. We talk heated rivalry, the traitor season four. And are you in a group chat? Energy High on a Saturday. Cheers. Happy Saturday. Saturday. Happy 2026. Welcome back. Welcome back to our loyal listeners. And obviously, I'm not doing a dry January because that's fucking stupid.
SPEAKER_00I was gonna ask you if that was even something that entered the equation. No.
SPEAKER_01Of course not. That's fucking stupid. But because we are a stupid people, we really are. It has proven to me over the last couple of weeks that we've been off how stupid of a people we are. But I am drinking sincere because I don't know if you've read this in the news, but you know, in general, liquor and wine and everything not Zelen decreased.
SPEAKER_00We saw $832 billion loss in 2025, right? Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Because Gen Z doesn't drink at all. And I mean it's fucking nuts. We've discussed the mock tails. I have a story about that in a second. But Sincere, which is obviously a French white, that has doubled in retail because apparently, and I did not notice this, but I went back to look. Okay, Taylor Swift was drinking Sincere in her documentary. Are we not the stupidest people ever?
SPEAKER_00Listen, she has a whole economy domino effect. Like it's no doubt, whatever she says goes.
SPEAKER_01Now I happen to have a bottle of Sincere. I did not go out purposely and buy it, so I opened it, but I was laughing my ass off. And don't get me wrong, it's not like I don't like Sincere. I mean, I like it better if I'm in Paris. Oh, fine. But the fact that you're going out and buying Sincere because you noticed on that table next to her notebook was a bottle of Sincere.
SPEAKER_00The power of the Swifties, I mean, we can get into it when we talk about the traders, but nobody wanted to vote out Mama Kelsey because they were scared of the Swifty controversy that it could create. It's just bonkers. I've watched the concert twice, the docuseries twice. Like I get it.
SPEAKER_01I did go back, like you recommended before we went on break and watched the concert. Now that you know the dancers, and you were right, it felt so much better. But the other night I went to Claude, as you may have saw.
SPEAKER_00I did see that.
SPEAKER_01Yes, with my sister. And it's tiny in Claude. You've been there, right? Yeah. It's tiny. So we're a middle two-top next to two other two-tops.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_01And to my right, they order mocktails, like $25 mocktails.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_01To my left, they're drinking sparkling water.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Now, mind you, everyone, Claude is a wine bar.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_01It is actually a wine bar. It is not even like Petty Upstairs, you know, that we you and I went to. It is a legit wine bar. So you're at the wine bar just a mocktail or sparkling water. Then why are you at the wine bar?
SPEAKER_00All these different restaurants have to start rethinking everything, or they're all screwed because the markup on alcohol is so significant in your when your business plan. I don't know what they're gonna do, but they're people have to start thinking a little creatively, I guess.
SPEAKER_01I don't know, but it's I guess that's what the mocktail does because it's $25.
SPEAKER_00But it's the same price for no alcohol.
SPEAKER_01I just don't get it. Okay.
SPEAKER_00It's a different generation. I can't take it. They don't want to drink, they want to run, they want to play. They do want to eat, though, which I appreciate that they're still eating.
SPEAKER_01And they want to look like shit. And I'm not insulting. Listen, I hope I have Gen Z listeners. I'm sure I probably don't.
SPEAKER_00But people, if you know a Gen Z listener that you might want to have them check out our show, there is a contest going on.
SPEAKER_01Yes, we'll talk about the contest in a minute. But come out to dinner the other night at a trendy spot in Ridgewood. Great, food great. And everybody looks like they're headed to, I don't know, Yankee Stadium.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, they're all wearing sweatpants. Listen, they're all my people. They're wearing sweatpants and Uggs and big over sweatshirts, and they don't brush their hair.
SPEAKER_01Although I basically baseball hats, they look like they haven't showered. Like we're all going to stands in the Bronx.
SPEAKER_00Everybody wears slippers now. People wear slippers to work. I know wear it. Slippers to work is a little much, even for me.
SPEAKER_01And I know I'm old school and I know I don't wear sneakers on a plane, and I get all that stuff. But like, really, the fact of going out to dinner still in your sweats with your baseball hat on, looking like you haven't showered in like the whole break. You haven't taken a 2026 shower yet.
SPEAKER_00Well, for the record, when I go out to dinner in my sweats, I am showered and my hair is brushed.
SPEAKER_01Well, it's embarrassing that you go out to dinner in your sweats. Nobody has said a word about it. I'm saying it. You better not go out to dinner with me in your sweats.
SPEAKER_00I'm gonna do it.
SPEAKER_01No, you're not. Yes, I am.
SPEAKER_00I'm gonna do it.
SPEAKER_01No, you're not. I'm seeing you later. You're not walking wearing sweats.
SPEAKER_00Maybe I will.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, we're doing this on a Saturday. Lots of energy. Saturday afternoon. We've been off. Your break was good. I mean, as good as it could be.
SPEAKER_00My break was fine. I can't believe we're in season seven. My whole family is here. So all the Australians are here. The British are here. I love it.
SPEAKER_01The British are here.
SPEAKER_00The British are here. They came on Wednesday. So uh we had a really nice party, party night on Thursday. We're rallying for today. But before they got here on New Year's Eve day, the Australians, me, Dylan, and Rich, all did the tip to tip walk of Manhattan almost 19 miles.
SPEAKER_01So impressed with you. I love that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it was really good. I would totally do it again, but it wasn't easy. It was cold. We were all really well prepared. We bundled up properly. I was never cold. I had heated gloves that I got for Christmas. And we strategically stopped appropriately for food and drink and bathroom. And we had yummy pizza on the way. But you know, you get down to 23rd Street. You know, we start at 220th Street, right? Up in Inwood Farms, is I think where we started. And we did really well, like trucking along. You gotta be focused if you want to get done before dark. But around 23rd Street, we're like, can we really do this? Right. Because we're tired, our feet are starting to hurt, and it became this whole can't stop now. Can't stop now. We gotta power through mind over matter.
SPEAKER_01Mind over matter, I kept saying, mind over matter. Well, you got that far. I agree. Yeah how long did the whole thing take?
SPEAKER_00Oh, we started at about nine and we were done a little before six.
SPEAKER_01Wow, amazing. Now, if you were to do it again, would you do it in this cold January or would you choose like another month?
SPEAKER_00The cold was actually for me not that bad. I really was not cold. The key would be to do it like on a spring day, 60 degrees, because carrying a backpack, you know, with all the stuff, because we all brought extra mittens and hand warmers and snacks and all these other things. So I would say the less layers would be helpful. I only ended up with two blisters on my pinky toe bottoms. That's the only thing that happened to me.
SPEAKER_01I love it. I think I I'm impressed. I think it's great.
SPEAKER_00Everybody did a good job, but you got to be focused if you do it with a group of people, even if you do it alone. If you want to get done in a day, you gotta focus.
SPEAKER_01No, of course.
SPEAKER_00Keep going. We only stopped a few times. I think we added up how many minutes we stopped in. All in all, we probably stopped 90 minutes total.
SPEAKER_01No, I know that would be my problem. I'd be like having a cocktail here, having a coffee there, but you really can't do that.
SPEAKER_00You can't, or even if you say, Oh, look at that store, I want to come in there. I know. Keep going. Make a note, go, I'll come back there someday.
SPEAKER_01Well, I like your dedication. I love that for you.
SPEAKER_00It was a good challenge. I say for especially for you guys that are New Yorkers, you should do it. Because there's parts of New York I never even knew existed before.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. No, I would do that. I think that's fun, but I don't think I would do it in January.
SPEAKER_00No, like I would say maybe like April, May.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Early May.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that sounds more like up my speed. All right. Well, we are back. It is season seven. We have a little, I don't know, what are you calling it? Like a little game? Like or a little what are we doing? What's happening?
SPEAKER_00What do you mean, our incentive program? Yeah, our incentive program. Our loyalty program. Yes. Okay, people. So as you know, we closed out 2026 and we really, really want to quit our jobs and do this full time. And we can't do that unless we get more listeners. So we're begging. We're we're really coming up with everything we can think of to get you guys to loop in your friends, family members, anybody that might want to even have an idea of what to watch when they sit down in front of their TVs or their computers.
SPEAKER_01Or they want to hear my insight because I got a lot to say in 2027.
SPEAKER_00You may want to know about etiquette.
SPEAKER_01You may want to know what to wear and what not to wear. What not to wear at a wedding? Yeah, so if you share our podcast and you tag we need to talk, apparently the loyal listener who shares it the most has a prize coming from producer Ed. I don't know what this prize is. I heard it's a good prize.
SPEAKER_00I don't know what it is, but I've been told that it's a good one.
SPEAKER_01But it better, it better be good because we don't give out shit prizes. Exactly.
SPEAKER_00We only give out the good stuff.
SPEAKER_01We are the Kathy Hilton of Podcast. The only good prizes. I'm like half of the episode of the new one because they haven't watched it yet. They were also off.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01But she's got three people at her house for lunch or dinner or whatever it is. And everybody leaves with a full goodie bag with all types of stuff in it. I'm like, Kathy Hilton is really the way to go.
SPEAKER_00Absolutely. She knows what she's doing, she knows how to throw a party or even just an intimate gathering. She always has some cool stuff. Well, I just started watching The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. So I've never watched it. And during the break, I started. And I gotta say, first of all, these women are insane. So I love it already. But the swag that they give out is pretty good, even just for their parties.
SPEAKER_01You know, I watched it when it first came out, and then I kind of fell off. But everybody is saying that it's now the best one.
SPEAKER_00I know.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. So I'm proud of you that you went in.
SPEAKER_00I decided to do it. I'm on episode nine, season one. How many seasons? I think it's I think they just did the reunion for season six.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. It's been a little bit.
SPEAKER_00But I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna I'm gonna do it. I was gonna do Vanderpump Rules, but it was way too many seasons.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, a lot of seasons.
SPEAKER_00I can definitely catch up on this. I could probably be done and caught up, I would say, within a month.
SPEAKER_01All right. Well, that's good because I like it. There's a lot of drama around that. I mean, the Beverly Hills thing is pathetic, but I mean, you know, I love Kathy Hilton, but you need a new one that has some life.
SPEAKER_00Okay, well, if anybody wants to see a train wreck, this Palm Beach members only thing. Have you seen any of this?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but before we go into that, do you believe the whole Judece reunion? No. You think that was all for we need this show so bad that we're willing to like pretend.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I think that Melissa Gorga and Teresa came together and said, Look, this is our livelihood. This is where we make our money.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And you need it just as much as I need it. And the only way that we're gonna be able to keep this going is if we figure out a way to come together. That's what I think happened. I wish that they could truly just water under the bridge, let's move together as a family. And just I wish it was all true and real and good intention. I'm really struggling with how they went from we're never gonna be together again, to look at us all on Christmas.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I hope that for two reasons. One is obviously it's your only brother and that's all you have. And two is for the kids, because it was nice, even if it was fake, to see the kids, because they're not fake. They enjoy it.
SPEAKER_00Well, I don't know about this Gia lately.
SPEAKER_01Well, I know, but you know what I mean. So I felt like I was getting duped there because we're a stupid people.
SPEAKER_00Well, I'm not duped. Yeah, I know. I know what I know, and I'm telling you, this is what I believe.
SPEAKER_01Well, I did tune in to the members only Palm Beach while I was in Florida, and I what what is happening?
SPEAKER_00Like, what is so you guys think about Real Housewives to the ridiculous levels, and but these women are all like 70 plus, right? 65, 70. So I mean, I think one of them's 50, but the rest are much older. And then there's this other one, they're in Palm Beach for the season. There must have been a drinking game because they say Mar-a-Lago 500 times.
SPEAKER_01But Palm Beach, and I guess evident by their ages and stuff, this is not new information. People that they're older. No, going to Palm Beach for the season. I'm sure they have a new wave of people, like they show that one girl when she's younger, she's trying to break her way in, and then they have the old school. You remember what's her name from the Real Housewives of New York when she was married?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, when she would go to Palm Beach, Sonia, she would always be there. I don't know. These women are disgusting women, but they are adorable women.
SPEAKER_01But I will say this that is true money.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, this Gail Brofie, though. They are dripping in money. There's so many charitable dinners and parties and gossip.
SPEAKER_01How many episodes did you watch?
SPEAKER_00All of it.
SPEAKER_01Oh my god, no, you didn't. I didn't see we are a stupid people. Even Rich watched it. Maybe I'm on episode three. I got too caught up in my heated rivalry.
SPEAKER_00Oh, wait, don't even go there yet.
SPEAKER_01Oh my god, no, I can't even take it.
SPEAKER_00In the uh Palm Beach one, there's this woman named Maria, and she is ripped. She's got these crazy arms. Is that the CJ? Yeah. And also, sometimes you're not sure if that's even her because she has this chameleon ability to look different in every single episode, right? Some days she has blonde hair, some days she has completely different wigs on. She has a very specific kind of a face, so you know it's Maria. But I'm like, God, she looks so different in every episode.
SPEAKER_01I'm trying to see their ages.
SPEAKER_00And Gail Brofie, you can't find her age. I don't know how she must have some serious power with the Google people because they say she might be in her 70s. Yeah, they might be. Like, how do you get Google to not know your age? Because Gail, I would be willing to be friends with you for Google to not know my age.
SPEAKER_01That's actually fucking happy. That's power.
SPEAKER_00If you can get Google to not know your age, that's power.
SPEAKER_01Dude, that is power. Yeah, no, it's stupid. I don't know if people could watch it. We can't watch it.
SPEAKER_00I can't recommend it.
SPEAKER_01We can't be recommending that in 2026. We have a reputation.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and people were really happy with our top five and wanted to know the rest that were on our lists and uh if we could post some additional ideas, which we could do. But uh, I got a lot of great feedback on our top fives.
SPEAKER_01I did too. And I also got the feedback that they agreed with our decision that some of those shows cancel each other out. Yep. So I thought that that was interesting too. And people gave me some of their comments, like, oh, I really love the girlfriend. And it's not like we didn't love these shows because we did, and we talked about them all season. It's just what, in our opinion, rose to the top. You know, it doesn't have to be everybody's opinion. Speaking of rising to the top, because it is Saturday, tomorrow is the Golden Globes.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so we will we will have to recap all that next summer.
SPEAKER_01Crossing my fingers at some of the things I want happen, but who knows? But did you see that they gave Sarah Jessica Parker the Carol Burnett Award? Yeah, very nice.
SPEAKER_00It was nice. It was say she sort of deserves that.
SPEAKER_01I loved it, and I love I was listening to the speeches, you know, like her husband and Charlotte from Sex in the City. Just great. Like I was I was happy to see her and I think well deserved. So I thought that was really cool. So yeah, so I'm excited to see heated rivalry men are giving an award, which is amazing.
SPEAKER_00So wait, I just want to take a step back because if everybody out there is not aware, there is no are we talking about it now or are we gonna continue in other things? Uh so you want to just recap some new like what do you where did we want to go? Because I feel like we're disjointed, but I mean this heated rivalry thing is out of control.
SPEAKER_01Okay, let's let's wait for heated rivalry. Okay, let's wait. Okay, I I know it came up in my golden globes, but we're all excited about the golden globes. And what is it? Nikki is Nikki hosting? Yeah, yeah. So I think that'll be fun too. First of all, this is my favorite weekend of the year. So the fact that the Golden Globes are mixed into my favorite weekend of the year is a little upsetting.
SPEAKER_00You've got wildcard Sunday. Wildcard weekend, yeah.
SPEAKER_01It's the best football weekend of the year.
SPEAKER_00I gotta say, the college football playoff is crazy too.
SPEAKER_01It has been crazy.
SPEAKER_00Who would have ever thought it would be Miami and Indiana?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but it has been crazy. And this weekend, hopefully, wildcard weekend doesn't disappoint. So throwing in the golden globes is a lot for me.
SPEAKER_00And there's a lot of TV that dropped in the past 24 hours.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so we had the pit. Yep, episode one, episode one of the pit. This is season two, already renewed for season three before we even had the first episode of season two, right?
SPEAKER_00But it's weird because in episode one, Dr. Robbie Noah Wiley says that he's leaving on sabbatical.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so by the time we get uh season three, he's back from sabbatical.
SPEAKER_00But what's the point of him saying he's leaving for sabbatical?
SPEAKER_01I don't know, but but somebody told me he did the same thing in ER.
SPEAKER_00He left for sabbatical in ER, too.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. They're like, isn't there isn't there some copyright issues? Well, it's the same guy, John Wells, right? Yeah, yeah. I think it was, I think it was Pauline who's telling me this. She's like, What's old is new again? Pauline, what's old is new, Pauline? Don't you know this? Obviously, a great first episode. He needs to heal, he's trying to be better, and he needs a sabbatical, and okay, but again, remember if you are bugging like the rest of the world and have not watched the pit, which it was in our both top fives, um, everything happens in a 24-hour shift.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_01And it's 15 episodes, correct. So this is happens to be 4th of July, which I think is great. And so we will get 15 episodes in this 24-hour shift, and then most likely either he decides not to go or he goes, and when he comes back for season three, he's refreshed.
SPEAKER_00Right. And maybe he's grown, or maybe he's different. Maybe he does ayahuasca. I don't know.
SPEAKER_01Maybe he bangs the new resident, the new chief.
SPEAKER_00No, I don't like her.
SPEAKER_01I don't like her either. It's been 15 seconds.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, minute one, I say.
SPEAKER_01But they're all back.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and even Dr. Langdon, who I didn't know that he if he was coming back or not.
SPEAKER_01Oh, right. We didn't know that, did we?
SPEAKER_00No.
SPEAKER_01I was happy he came back. I'm not going out on a limb. I just know that this is not a sophomore slump.
SPEAKER_00There really doesn't need to be a sophomore slump because of the type of show it is. So good. It is really good.
SPEAKER_01So that came back. It's on HBO, everybody. Hopefully, you caught up with season one, and now you are ready for season two. Right. What else came back? The traitors season four came back. And again, maybe I'm gonna try to repeat myself less in 2026, but I doubt it.
SPEAKER_00Well, we can't remember what we said, so we have to chalk it up too. We have no memories.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, size serious wet brain. But even if you don't like reality TV, you do not have to like reality TV to love the traders.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, because the game itself is such a great game.
SPEAKER_01Oh my god, it's such a good game.
SPEAKER_00And Alan Cumming, it doesn't even like matter if you like games, just watch for Alan. Alan Cumming is great.
SPEAKER_01Alan is the best, like he is the best.
SPEAKER_00The outfits are wilder, the hair is wilder, the way he speaks is just amazing. Yeah, Scotland looks so good.
SPEAKER_01So this is season four. Three dropped on the cock, and I watched all three. Me too. This is still celebrity season, although these are all, I don't know, B-list, besides who knows, B-list celebrities. Next season, season five is. Regular people. I'm really looking forward to that because I'm getting tired of these people.
SPEAKER_00It's much better, I think, if you don't have these alliances housewives, gamers.
SPEAKER_01I agree with you. I don't care, but so Donna Kelsey was on it, which is hilarious in itself. We knew this because they dropped the cast.
SPEAKER_00They said that Dorinda and Donna Kelsey had fisticuffs, and we didn't get to see any of that.
SPEAKER_01Who knows? Maybe it was behind the scenes, or maybe it was just fake news. But I have to say, I think it makes perfect sense that the traders made her the traitor.
SPEAKER_00Okay, well, that was a spoiler in case somebody didn't watch it.
SPEAKER_01That's too bad, people. But she was so bad that she was terrible. She's gotta stick to Hallmark movies, she can't play these games.
SPEAKER_00The amount of physicality involved, she's 70, what'd she say? 76, 74 years old. Those games are hard for her.
SPEAKER_01I hate those games.
SPEAKER_00I liked them.
SPEAKER_01I want all the other stuff. When they try to get the money and the shit, I hate it.
SPEAKER_00I don't really know why we need that, but they have what are they gonna do with them in Scotland all day?
SPEAKER_01I know, but I didn't play games and I heard the food is terrible.
SPEAKER_00Oh, really? I had good food in Scotland when I was there.
SPEAKER_01No, no, I don't mean Scotland. I mean on this show. Meaning craft services is terrible. Yes, that's what I heard. What? Yep, that's what I heard. But anyway, I'm sorry if I spoiled it, but it's a game show. Everybody, and I'm sure you're seeing it.
SPEAKER_00And there's a juicy twist in this season.
SPEAKER_01There was a juicy twist.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I don't know if they're gonna repeat the twist, but there's a twist where we always get to know who the traders are. But in this particular season, there was a secret trader that the audience doesn't know and the three traders didn't know. Yeah, I thought that was kind of cool. But what I didn't love is that the secret trader is who nominated the people to be murdered. I just wish that the secret trader had different powers.
SPEAKER_01I didn't know how I felt about it. Then by episode two, I was enjoying it. And also I thought in these three episodes, they tried to switch it up. Like they did a killing on site, they did a killing when these people are tied to the trees. So, you know, interesting. Good for Alan in the show. It's just the best, though. It's just the best.
SPEAKER_00It's so good, you guys. Really?
SPEAKER_01And I don't know who I like or don't like, but we'll see as the game goes on.
SPEAKER_00Michael Rappaport can do no wrong in my mind.
SPEAKER_01I know, but he's not helping him. He's being an idiot. He's not helping himself.
SPEAKER_00He's being an idiot, but at least we know he's not a trader.
SPEAKER_01He's like Tom Sandoval. Even Tom Sandoval dialed it down a notch. Okay, so that started. What else started?
SPEAKER_00All right, so his and hers, I'm on episode two.
SPEAKER_01I don't know what that is.
SPEAKER_00That's like a who'd done it murdery thing on Netflix.
SPEAKER_01There's I don't think I'm on eight episodes.
SPEAKER_00The verdict is still out. Oh, his and hers is six episodes, not eight.
SPEAKER_01You watched that runaway.
SPEAKER_00I started that and I didn't like it.
SPEAKER_01You know, I've watched all those Harlan Kobelin stuff. And usually, listen, in all of them, this twists and turns, and that's what makes it kind of cool. This is not a must-watch. No. It's in the top top ten, and I was watching, like I had some downloaded for the plane because you couldn't watch Heated Ribbery on the plane. So I was watching that. So I finished it. It's fine.
SPEAKER_00I'm gonna try to finish this his and hers. That's my goal. I also went and saw Marty Supreme in the movies with Timothy Chalamet. Right. Dylan did not like it.
SPEAKER_01I've seen the same amount of reviews of people saying great and the same amount of reviews saying people say it sucked.
SPEAKER_00So I really liked it. When I when I walked out of the theater, I said, Oh my gosh, that was so good. And of course, Timothy Chalamet was amazing. But when I think about it after the fact, there's so many things that make no sense that I, in hindsight, think it's good. It's more about his performance than it's a great movie. One battle after another is a great movie.
SPEAKER_01Did you wear orange?
SPEAKER_00No. I wore sweatpants. That's what I wear. To the movies, that's what I wear to dinner. That's where what I wear to sleep. That's what I wear every day. Sweats.
SPEAKER_01Those two from Hacks wearing what? The orange. Oh my god, they are so fucking funny. That was great. Brilliant move. Imitating Timothy. And Kylie was amazing.
SPEAKER_00And Timothy said he loves Kylie. I mean, I love it. I love it. I didn't realize they were together for three years when he said my partner of three years. Did you realize they were together that long?
SPEAKER_01Um, no, but I mean he was on the gingerbread houses.
SPEAKER_00I know, and that means it's real. So if you make it on the house, you get on a gingerbread house, it's pretty, yeah, it's important to make it on the gingerbread house. It should be a test for everybody. If you make it on the ornament, if you make it in the photo, if you make it on the gingerbread house, then that means you're legit.
SPEAKER_01Days of Our Lives has this episode every Christmas where they put their ornament with the names on it. So if you're like a new member and you get your name on the ornament, it's huge.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I'm excited to see them at the Golden Globes.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Well, you say to people, yes, you should go see Marty Supreme.
SPEAKER_00I would say wait for it to come on TV.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I'm not doing it. Right. That's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, wait for TV. It's a wait for TV situation.
SPEAKER_01All right. So we're waiting for TV on Marty Supreme. What about the people we met on vacation? That was a book.
SPEAKER_00And well, I don't I didn't read the book.
SPEAKER_01Well, of course not. But now it's on Netflix.
SPEAKER_00I would say I'm three quarters through.
SPEAKER_01Now I feel like that has gotten good reviews.
SPEAKER_00I like it. I don't love it, but I like. You know what? It should have been a show instead of a movie. Yeah, yeah. Because it's basically like this girl, this guy, we've sort of seen this before. They meet because they're driving home from college together to the same town, and they become friends and they decide to meet every summer on a vacation, no matter what. But of course, you know that they both really actually like each other. But you know, this one has a boyfriend, this one has a girlfriend. My guess is that at the end, they'll be together.
SPEAKER_01I'm gonna watch it. I watched that other one over the break that you told me was a rom-com. It wasn't a rom-com. Which one? I don't forget the name of it. You told me, oh, it's a rom com. Well, you can't bring it up if you can't you can't talk about it if you can't remember the name of it. You saw it before we went on break, and you told me it was regretting you? Yeah, regretting you. Right. You said it was a rom com. It's not a rom-com.
SPEAKER_00I mean it is.
SPEAKER_01Where is the com?
SPEAKER_00Well, there's no com. There's just rom.
SPEAKER_01Okay, so what are you talking about? What do you call a rom-com with no com? Rom? No, we went over this, like the drama and the and the romance. Definitely a rom-com with no com.
unknownOh, God.
SPEAKER_01It wasn't a rom-com. All right, so we'll both watch the people we've met on vacation and we'll report back next week. Yeah. Absolutely. What about speaking of vacation? I think of the outer banks because I'm thinking of summer. How about those fucking crazies that got back together?
SPEAKER_00So Chase Stokes and Kelsey Ballerini are back together after a three-month breakup.
SPEAKER_01How dramatic is he as a person? The most dramatic person I've ever seen on Instagram.
SPEAKER_00Then they get back together, and then Kelsey Ballerini's dog Dibbs died.
SPEAKER_01No, I did see that. It's terrible. But I mean, I feel like the show wrapped, and they're like, okay, let's get back together.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
unknownI know.
SPEAKER_01And then they wrote the most ridiculous stuff. Instead of just saying, like, we're back together, we figured it out. Happy New Year. They write the craziest shit.
SPEAKER_00Okay, but Mazletop. I'm happy they're back together. But you know who's not back together? This mom drama, these famous moms. It's what? Ashley Tisdale, Hillary Duff, Megan Trainer, Mandy Moore are in this mom group. And Ashley Tisdale just goes and writes this article. How she had a drop out of her toxic mom group. And now the husbands are involved. Everybody's posting saying that Ashley's a lunatic, but she's also MAGA. So maybe there's something about the MAGA situation with them. I don't know.
SPEAKER_01I think they're all fucking nuts. Who cares? What is everybody talking about?
SPEAKER_00Why did she have to go and make an entire proclamation that she was leaving her toxic mom group?
SPEAKER_01I don't know. I don't even get it. Are they like the Mormon wise? Who else? It's Hillary Duff. It was somebody else famous besides like somebody big.
SPEAKER_00Mandy Moore. Mandy Moore, Megan Trainor, Hillary Duff. They all got together in the pandemic. I think people should just get out of group chats. Group chats are the problem.
SPEAKER_01I think everybody needs to get out more. This is my problem. Like everyone go outside. Go outside. Everybody's trapped behind a phone or trapped at their desk. Everyone works from home. But you have something to say, you're gonna go on social media. Why?
SPEAKER_00I don't understand it at all. I don't understand group chats are good.
SPEAKER_01I think they're good for certain things, but in every group chat, there's a side chat. Of course, I hate side chat. No, you don't know. How do you know? You you're obviously you could be in a group chat and in a side chat you're talking about you. Right.
SPEAKER_00Well, that's why I don't like group chats. Look, you don't think that I know that in the football group chat that there's a side chat going, Christy Karuba does not even know how to play this game, Christy Karuba doesn't even know how to talk trash. I'm sure that there was side chat about our football thing. That didn't happen. Okay, well, in my delusions, it did. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I will say that in my family group chat.
SPEAKER_00You have to have side chats.
SPEAKER_01My brother always leads the conversation.
SPEAKER_00Brother Paul or brother Frank?
SPEAKER_01No, Frank. And it comes up in big letters. Frank is left the card.
SPEAKER_00Frank is left.
SPEAKER_01Like it's hilarious.
SPEAKER_00I know that group chat is bad. Yeah, no, side chat worse, group chat bad.
SPEAKER_01I always say about my work group chat. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_00If anyone got wind of my work group chat, I wouldn't have a job. Yeah. Like I wouldn't have a job. For my job, we have these big meetings on Thursdays, the whole team. And everybody's on their phone or their DM because we're all saying stuff about people in the room. Right. And it's all real-time chat. And you're trying so hard not to either laugh, bite your tongue, etc.
SPEAKER_01You know what fucks me up too? And I have to be very careful of this. Sometimes in my group chat, especially the work group chat, somebody will add somebody because danger zone. Danger zone. Right. Because whatever we're talking about relates to this person they added. And then But then they can go back and read the rest. No, but then I would that now I want that person gone from my group chat. And I just want it to be my original OGs. But now sometimes I'll say something and I click on the channel. You forget the other one. You have to delete those chats.
SPEAKER_00Yes. That's why I think when you do your group chat, you have to make sure that the name of the chat fits on the front of your screen. Because I have one with my sister. When my mom was alive, we had a group chat of the three of us.
SPEAKER_01And you name them all?
SPEAKER_00I name them all because that's what Ed does. Ed You have to name them. I don't. You have to because so mine was I forgot. It was like mom, mom carry, but then it was like carry only. Yeah. Because if I needed to talk about my mom to my sister, I couldn't be on that one. So I had I I wanted to make sure. Wait, make sure you're on the carry only. Yeah. You know? All right. And then I had like my sister and my nieces, and my sister, my nieces, and Dylan. You have to name them properly, people.
SPEAKER_01Work peeps. When you're listening to this, come up with a good name so that we can have rename our work. Exactly. And then if you add someone, you have to rename it. I wish you could see my Christmas tree. When do you stop lighting the Christmas tree candle? I think I'm going all of January.
SPEAKER_00I would say January's fine. Once you get to Fab, it's all about Valentine's Day.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I'm gonna go all of January. It's so good. I can't stop it. Yeah. All right. Let's talk about something else that really made me smile over the break. And I hope it was this one-time thing and flirtetious and having fun and looking great in St. Bart. But Alex Earl and Tom Brady fucking love it. And for all those people, and I don't even know who these people are. I hope they're not our listeners. But because we are a stupid people in general, for all the haters out there who think Alex Earl's ridiculous or Tom Brady's ridiculous, but people, people, you are bugging out because we are in St. Barthes. We are on the best yacht with the best people. I can't even discuss how jealous I am of that people and what they must do and get in their pajamas and talk about their night.
SPEAKER_00I just love it But I have to I have to say something. If Alex Earl's listening, and I'm sure she is, but I guess she is a fucking boss, and I'll I'll tell you why. I mean, I don't know if she's ever met Tom Brady before. I have no idea what the situation is. But the fact that, let's just say, she is meeting Tom Brady for the first time. First of all, I wouldn't even know what to say. But in addition to the fact that she's on a bat besides you got too much Botox, Tom, you get it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, like I would try to start out nice and maybe you shouldn't. Maybe you shouldn't play the death music in your posts when you find out your ex-wife is getting married. Like there's a lot of things going on. He's suffering, which is why if you're flirting with Alex Darrell, good for you.
SPEAKER_00I honestly think that it was Alex. Brady. What a boss move with the whole, she's already touching the back, rubbing the back, hand on the shoulder. Like that is a boss move.
SPEAKER_01And if she all oh my god, Alex, all she gets out of it is goes back to Nina and says, I hooked up with Tom Brady. It's worth it just to say I hooked up with Tom Brady. And don't get me wrong, listeners, I fucking hate Tom Brady. There's nothing, there's nothing about Tom Brady that I like. I don't even like I recognize I recognize he's the goat. And I recognize that some people may say he's good looking. The blueberry, no alcohol, way too much Botox is not my thing. But to say I hooked up with Tom Brady, if I'm at my girl.
SPEAKER_00Good for you, Alex Darrow.
SPEAKER_01And guess what? Your exact barrios. I know we're not trying to spite Braxton because I really do believe that broke up with Braxton and their friends. But how crazy is it that Braxton looks up to Tom Brady? That's his mentor.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. No, it's awesome. But her moves, I'm just saying, to have that much confidence. I'm going to St. Bart's, I'm getting on this boat, I'm gonna look smoking hot. I'm gonna touch Tom Brady 42 times, and maybe I make out with him on New Year's Eve.
SPEAKER_01I'm also obsessed with Nina. She's just too cool. If you don't follow Nina Dobrov, the Dole Brev. Doe Brev, you you crazy.
SPEAKER_00Because what a follow that is. She's excellent, and she also surrounds herself with an amazing bunch of people all the time.
SPEAKER_01This is what I am saying to you. So in case anybody doesn't know who Nina Dobre is. How did we go from the vampire diaries?
SPEAKER_00Vampire Diaries to Nina.
SPEAKER_01To the yacht in St. Bart's. How did we do that? How did we do it? I don't know where she got all the street cred to be invited. And all the people and the friends. I mean, this is the best. Yes. Good for Alex Earl.
SPEAKER_00Yes. I really think she is a boss. And this is the beginning for her. She's gonna not that she's not major now, she's gonna be even more major. She's gonna be like a Taylor Swift, I'm telling you.
SPEAKER_01That really put a smile on my face with that Tom Brady thing. I was so happy.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, well, you know what put a smile on my face? Can we talk about Heated Arrival?
SPEAKER_01Or yet? First of all, I am pissed at you, though. Did you didn't even respond to my text? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Let me tell my side of what happened. I have to tell my side too. No, first I want to tell my side. Okay, you can tell your side. Let's do it. You and I, and we may have even said it if we go back to the tapes. We did. We may have even said, we know this show is getting a lot of buzz right now. Not the buzz it's getting now, but this is like weeks ago.
SPEAKER_00When it first was when it first launched, we both said, we know we should be watching this.
SPEAKER_01We know we should be watching it. Am I up for all the gay socks? So we kind of like we kind of didn't deal with it. Slowly we're like, uh, I don't know, I don't know. And then I'm in Florida and I'm sitting there and I go, all right, I'm just going in. I'm like, I'm going. So you didn't text me that you were going with it. No, because I thought to myself, I swear this is what I thought. I thought to myself, if I don't get through episode one, I may not get through episode one, there's no even point. And I'll bring it up on the podcast that I tried it and it wasn't for me. I became so addicted and crazed that when I realized that I was so addicted, I texted you and I said, I said, listen, this is not just the gay thing. It's we've watched the soft horns before. Eventually, whether it's heterosexual sex or homosexual sex, a lot of sex is too much for my brain, you know? So it doesn't matter what kind of sex it is. But I said, if you could get through all the sex, this show is unbelievable. And you say you say, I finished it. I finished it. And I respond, were you keeping it a fucking secret?
SPEAKER_00I was keeping it a secret because I knew, well, I didn't know, I thought we sort of agreed not to watch it. Let's just take it back one second. Okay, so heated rivalry. It's on HPL. There's only six episodes. It's about two, well, actually, four guys who play hockey and they're in the closet. There's two separate love stories that go on, and they're just great, great love stories. The guys are all smoking hot, they're all ripped, they're all jacked, they all wear nice clothes, and they all have a lot of sex. But I don't know. It's so damn good, and it's on every now, it's in my every feed. It's in my Instagram, it's in my TikTok, it's in my Facebook, it's everywhere. And these guys, all these guys, they're gonna be on the Golden Globes. They were on Fallon, they were on Seth Myers, they're everywhere now. I don't know what it is, you guys, because it's not the normal thing that we would say. It's not because of the gay thing, it's just there's just something about it. I don't know what it is. Like, so why is everybody so obsessed?
SPEAKER_01So this show is based on a series of books, and actually That of course we did not read. No, that we did not read them, but now I think I'm going to read the one there was somebody because uh I like you, the only thing in my feed are grief, heated rivalry, and dogs. Yeah, that's pretty much my feed. All three of those things are what's in my feed. I have watched every single clip, everything that comes in my feed about heated rivalry, and I've watched the show from episode one to episode six two times. Oh, you did. I gotta go back and rewatch. I went back and I've watched episode six and parts of episode five multiple times.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, everybody's talking about episode five the most. Supposedly, it's one of the most watched episodes of TV ever, something like that.
SPEAKER_01There was some influencer on my feed that was recommending the order of which you would now read the book based on the story they're gonna go to next. So the next one is I think called the long game or something. Or okay, I don't know. I gotta go back and look at it. So it would follow the story of Shane and Iliad. Like it would follow them in this next one, but not Scott and Kip. Right. I think that's another situation. I mean, I love Scott and Kip so much. But Scott and Kip, a lot of their story, according to the books, was taken out. Because if you I don't want to give anything away for anybody, but there's a large chunk of time missing from when you see them together to the end.
SPEAKER_00Oh, okay. So things happen in the middle.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I am beyond obsessed. This has definitely a hundred percent filled my void that I had after the summer I turned pretty. Oh, yeah, it's way better. Unlike you, I was suffering after the summer I turned pretty. I wasn't. Now I don't know how I'm supposed to get to 2027. And I don't understand. If this show took four months to make, why am I waiting to 2027? Why is everything in 2027?
SPEAKER_00Especially when they have the roadmap of what to do because they have the books. I don't know what's taken so long.
SPEAKER_01And what I love more than anything is the relationship that these two have in real life now. Yeah, they're like best friends, they got matching tattoos, they love each other, they're calling each other soulmates. And the fact that the Russian who I love today isn't Russian isn't Russian and learns Russian and speaks unbelievable, is beyond comprehension. His name is Connor Story, and he is not Russian. I cannot tell you. I've recommended the show a number of times. I said, listen, you may want to watch it on your own. This is not a plane show, this is not a child show not a computer program. This is not your husband sitting around. Although men of all sorts of men are watching it. Producer edited, no interest, but I bet now he will watch it. I cannot say enough. I've listened to the song. I I've downloaded that playlist, like all the things she said. I've listened on repeat over and over again. I need a shirt that says I'm coming to the cottage. I need it all. The parents, the scene.
SPEAKER_00Oh, the scene with the parents.
SPEAKER_01The scenes in episode six. There are so many scenes in episode six that are unbelievable. My obsession is sick. It's sick. Like it's actually sick. I watch every single thing that I get on Instagram.
SPEAKER_00Of course. Well, and I think also these two have such confidence. The fact that when oh my gosh, Hudson Williams, right? That's his name, uh, who plays Shane Hollander. He was on Fallon. And it was like he's been on 4,000 talk shows. So great on a talk show.
SPEAKER_01I don't know what they said their job was before they got. I don't know if he said it was like working in a restaurant or a deli or something. And he goes, and now I'm presenting a golden globe. I right only in America. It's a Canadian show, so it could never be up for the award show. But the performances of these people, and I'm a hockey person, like I love hockey.
SPEAKER_00It's not even about hockey, but it's not well, you know, because I'm not a hockey person and I love it.
SPEAKER_01My hockey people do say that there is those two, and that rivalry is a little Sydney Crosby Ovechkin type of rivalry, which I love when if I think about that, I think about wow, that's fucking cool.
SPEAKER_00I don't even know who those people are.
SPEAKER_01Loosely based on those two hockey players.
SPEAKER_00If you'd be sitting right next to me, I wouldn't know who they were.
SPEAKER_01Oh my god, it's amazing. Yes, I know nothing. Now we're in for a ride because I had to obviously go down a deep dive, and so we're in for a real ride. In the next book, like an emotional ride. Yeah. I don't know if I'm gonna make it. You mean to tell me that I have all of 2026?
SPEAKER_00Wait.
SPEAKER_01This is supposed to be somewhat of a better year. It can't be worse than last year. And now I have to wait for the summer I turn pretty movie and for the next season of Heated Rivalry.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but you know, we always say we always need things to look forward to. So we have a list building right now of the things we're looking forward to.
SPEAKER_01No, I need more of them.
SPEAKER_00How many times? I'm gonna have to watch it at least two more times. Oh yeah, I'm definitely gonna re-watch it. It flies by, you guys. It's only six episodes. It's so fast.
SPEAKER_01I watched five and six over and over, but now I gotta go back because you know, now that you start watching all these people pointing out all the stuff that you didn't realize, I'm like, oh my god, right.
SPEAKER_00Well, there's something that I didn't know until I went down the rabbit hole, is that Shane Hollander is supposed to be autistic. Did you know that? Well, I didn't, but I knew it from going down the rabbit hole. Because I kept thinking to myself, there's something off with this guy, but I didn't know what it was. And now I'm like, oh, well, they don't make that clear in the show that he's autistic. No, but I think they do in the books.
SPEAKER_01I went down that rabbit hole also. And Illy is gonna have like mental health issues because his mom had mental health issues. It's all too much, and I love them. I love them so much.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, me too.
SPEAKER_01I loved the parents and I love the lines, like all the lines are great. The lines are so good.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I agree. It's so good, you guys.
SPEAKER_01Listen, listeners, it's not for everybody, and we get it. We get it because we are we were actually late to.
SPEAKER_00But I would I would say, even if you think it's not for you, give it a try. Push yourself into the uncomfortable area. Well, that's what I did.
SPEAKER_01I said, let me try it.
SPEAKER_00That's why I lied. Well, I didn't lie, that's why I omitted the fact that I was watching. You were just closetly, literally. I was in the closet watching the show about the guys in the closet.
SPEAKER_01God, it's so fucking good. So we recommend heated rivalry. It's the best thing to come out of the start of this year. Oh my god, yes. Is there anything else? I'm I look, I had to drink all my sincere while I was talking about it.
SPEAKER_00So when we were doing our pre-call about an hour or so ago, I forgot that it was my turn to do the game. So of course I asked ChatGPT to do it for me. Since we were closing out 2025, I just asked Chat GPT for some trivia questions about pop culture in 2025. So that's the game. Did you check to see if ChatGPT was correct? Nope, it didn't. So chat's wrong, chat's wrong.
SPEAKER_01I've blocked out most of 2025, but let's see what you got.
SPEAKER_00All right, let's go. Let me get to the beginning here. Okay, so these are all things that happened in 2025. All right, number one. Which film became the first 2025 release to cross $1 billion globally, driven largely by international box office? Was it A, Avatar 3, B, Deadpool and Wolverine, C, Inside Out 2, or D, Dune Part 2?
SPEAKER_01Wow. Wait, give it to me again?
SPEAKER_00Avatar 3, Deadpool and Wolverine, Inside Out 2, or Dune Part 2.
SPEAKER_01Um, is it Avatar?
SPEAKER_00No, it's Deadpool and Wolverine. Which artist headlined both weekends of Coachella 2025, a rare repeat honor? Was it A, Bad Bunny, B, Taylor Swift, C, Beyonce, D, Dua Lipa?
SPEAKER_01What did you say?
SPEAKER_00Bad Bunny, Taylor Swift, Beyonce, Dua Lipa.
SPEAKER_01Let's say Bad Bunny.
SPEAKER_00Nope, it's Dua Lipa.
SPEAKER_01I love Dua Lipa. She's so cute. Do you see her drop from 2025? That's okay. Told you I blocked out all of 2025. Okay except for Wicked.
SPEAKER_00Which streaming platform shocked the industry in 2025 by reintroducing a premium ad-free tier at a higher price point? Was it A, Netflix, B, Disney Plus, C, HBO Max, or D, Amazon Prime Video? Disney. No, it was Netflix. That we know.
SPEAKER_01What'd they do?
SPEAKER_00They added the tier that you could have commercials and pay less.
SPEAKER_01Oh, right, right, right. Is it true that Hulu now is going to Disney?
SPEAKER_00I don't understand that because I have Hulu Live, so I don't know what that means for me.
SPEAKER_01It means eventually it's going away and you gotta and everybody's gotta get Disney. But we have Disney because we had to watch Taylor Swift.
SPEAKER_00Right. I have it all. There's nothing I don't pay for. It's ridiculous. I know. All right, I've gotten them all wrong. So God, is this the last one? No, question four. Oh god. Which TV series became the most streamed original show of 2025 surpassing Stranger Things previous records? Was it A, The Last of Us Season 2? B, Shogun Season Two, C, Fallout, or D, Euphoria Season 3?
SPEAKER_01The Last of Us.
SPEAKER_00No, it was Fallout, which did we watch? I don't even know. No, we didn't watch it. Okay. We're losers. Okay. Then the last question is what was the top-grossing theatrical movie domestically in 2025? Wicked. According to early box off rankings. Jurassic Park, Wicked, a Minecraft movie, or Superman. Wicked. No, it was Minecraft movie. What? Number one domestically.
SPEAKER_01Well, in 2026, new year, say me, I'm O for five.
SPEAKER_00O for five.
SPEAKER_01Alright, everyone. Welcome back, season seven. Don't forget, please share our podcast. Tag we need to talk. There's an extra special prize from producer Ed. I don't know what it is, but it better be good. And all right. Love ya.
SPEAKER_00Love ya. See ya later.
SPEAKER_01Later.